Why I’m still glad I left DailyKos
With a health care reform bill poised to pass, I thought I would mosy on over to DKos to see what the climate was like. And that’s when I came across this:
People are so quick to rush to embrace a bill that’s not set in stone, which has been consistently eroded over the past year, at an exponentially accelerated pace, with each major concessions not just making the bill worse, but emboldening critics to make further demands. As crappy as the bill is now, it’s inevitably getting worse, and then, it’ll get even worse after that.And every time progressives shrug their shoulders and say, “all right, we’ll take whatever we can get”, you empower those critics. Rather than draw a line in the sand and bolster the efforts of true reformists, you are leaving them high and dry. And the weaker progressives get, the more Ben Nelson and Joe Lieberman and Blanche Lincoln and the rest of that bunch can do to make this not just a bad bill politically, but a bad bill policy wise. [...]
We’re at the point, I think, where you strip this thing of anything remotely controversial and pass whatever is left — maybe tougher rules against rescissions, some regulatory reform, etc. But as far as substantive reform, we live in a legislative world were a majority can’t accomplish shit because idiotic rules prevent government from governing. And we can’t resort to reconciliation because we live in a world in which procedural tactics that were okay for Republicans, are somehow off limits for Democrats.
Nate Silver has a very well detailed take down of this kind of attitude, which I basically agree with unconditionally.
The bottom line is that the bill currently under consideration in the Senate (with the Executive Amendments and Nelson’s support) is still a good bill. Is it a great bill? No. Is it my favorite bill? No. Would I like to see a robust public option? Yes. Am I pissed off that procedural rules give the keys to the palace over to the likes of Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson? Absolutely. But the take-away is that this bill is significantly better than the status quo.
To sit in your corner and stamp your feet because the bad men threw your bill in the dirt is beyond childish. This bill will improve the lives of millions of Americans. Ron Wyden’s bill will not. The House bill will not. Why? Because they won’t pass the Senate. Period. Not even with reconciliation.
It’s time to grow up and pass a bill.
Tags: bill, DailyKos, health care, reform, Senate
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December 21st, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Thanks for the post. I do think, however, that you are being a little hard on the “kossaks.” You seem to agree with them (I think we all think and feel what they are saying) and at the same time are slamming them for just voicing that opinion.
I have been checking Kos myself to check up on the climate.
Stomping and pouting sucks … but I am not getting the impression people are going to be “chained to trees” in order to prevent this thing from getting passed.
There are really two ways to look at these things: you can look at how things should be played ideally and how things practically need to be carried out. Practically, you are right. The bill needs to get passed. Ideally perhaps more could have been done.
I am glad someone is making noise. I think dems, with this sort of criticism, will hopefully make steps towards being stronger, so next round we can get even more done. I am sure they are feeling that people disappointed. Let’s thank them for doing a good job, but let them know that they can do better.
EDIT: After reading the whole thing (more than just what you have quoted), it is a little more childish than just your quote lets on. I still, however, stand by what is said above.
December 24th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
I agree that we feel the same way, but there are a lot of progressive voices out there trying to kill this bill. That’s what I was criticizing.
Also, I think the rationale behind a lot of this is a pie in the sky dream that reconciliation could be used, and the thinking that the Dem leadership is too pussy to use it, which I find to be ridiculous.
In the end, it’s this type of populist knee-jerk reaction that led me away during the financial crisis. It’s all anger and no thought.